Route 470/408 re-creation
Sunday 30 September 2018
Page last updated 7 September
2018
Event page
retained for reference
Readers are invited to board RT4779 for a run over the former
Country routes 470 and 408, from Dorking to Chelsham and Chelsham
to Guildford, on Sunday 30 September 2018. The run recreates
two of the trunk routes operated by the bus when it was based at
Leatherhead Garage between 1963 and 1969, and follows the run in
2013 chronicled here.
RT1563 in Leatherhead
Crescent in about 1965awaiting a new crew to take the bus
on to Dorking.
Photo © Peter
Osborn
RT4779 run
Passengers will be carried at the discretion of the crew; all
stops along the route (except West Croydon Bus Station) will be
served on request.
470
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Dorking LT Bus Station (=Townfield
Court)
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1102
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Leatherhead Crescent
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1119
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Epsom Clock Tower
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1135
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Cheam Broadway
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1154
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Wallington Green
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1210
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West Croydon Tamworth Road stop
CR
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1231
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Chelsham Garage (= Warlingham
Sainsburys)
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1305
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408
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Chelsham Garage
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1351
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West Croydon Tamworth Road stop
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1422
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Wallington Green
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1446
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Cheam Broadway
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1502
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Epsom Ashley Road
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1522
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Leatherhead LT Garage (= Leisure
Centre)
|
1540
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Effingham Woodlands Road
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1550
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Guildford Bus Station stop 17
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1613
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408
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Guildford Bus Station stop 17
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1622
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Effingham Woodlands Road
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1645
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Leatherhead LT Garage (= Leisure
Centre)
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1654
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Epsom Clock Tower
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1713
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470
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Epsom Clock Tower
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1719
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Leatherhead Crescent
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1735
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Dorking LT Bus Station (=Townfield
Court) |
1752 |
Certain parts of the duties may be duplicated.
Read all about it!
A new book will be published in September by
LHRG, the London Historical Research Group of the Omnibus
Society, containing an expanded version of Rod Lucas's story of
working for London Country at Leatherhead in the 1970s and a
pictorial history of the garage from its origins in 1921 to closure
in 1999. Entitled Shades of Green,
the book will be available via the
LHRG website.
A brief history of the
408
The 406 and 408 (the '6 road' and the '8 road') were Leatherhead
Garage's senior routes. The 406 started operation
(unnumbered) between Redhill and Epsom in June 1920, operated by
the East Surrey Traction Co under an agreement with the London
General Omnibus Co. In November 1921 (92 years ago now), the
route was numbered S6 and an offshoot, numbered S6B, started
operating from Epsom to Guildford. In 1922 that
route was extended to run from Sutton to Guildford and then
renumbered S8; the S6 was extended to Kingston.
The following year the S6B was extended to run from Guildford
to West Croydon.
In 1924, the Bassom numbering
system was introduced for routes within the Metropolitan Police
area, requiring a renumbering into the 400-series for the southern
'country area'. The S6 became 406 and the S8 became
408.
The 408 ran hourly and needed eight K-type buses, which
were supplied by the General and had replaced B-types in
1923. They were stabled at the yard of the Swan Inn in
Leatherhead, one being swapped each day for another from
Reigate Garage, running via the S6. Early in 1925, the
new Leatherhead Garage opened, providing greatly increased capacity
for the rapid increase in bus services in the Leatherhead and Epsom
area. Chelsham Garage (south-east of Croydon) opened in the
same year, looking after the 403 route that operated from Croydon
to Westerham, Sevenoaks and Tonbridge, the two routes
meeting at West Croydon.
The K-types were replaced by NSs in 1925, replaced by STs in
1930 with these in turn being replaced by STLs in 1936.
Meanwhile, the East Surrey company had been wholly acquired by the
LGOC in 1929 and was renamed London General Country Services in
1932. The whole group was absorbed into the LPTB in 1933 and
LGCS became the Country Area of London Transport.
Green STL2600 working LH21 has paused by the
Yew Tree Restaurant at Epsom Clock Tower, en
route from Guildford to Warlingham on 14 Jan 50. The driver
has left his cab, so perhaps crews changed there in 1950 rather
than at Leatherhead Garage which they did later on.
Photo © Alan Cross
The Guildford to Croydon 408 was extended to Warlingham, also
served by the 403, and the 403 was extended over varying parts of
the 408, from March 1937. But the 408 routing in 1937
differed from the 403 by using South Park Hill Road instead of
serving the Swan & Sugar Loaf in South Croydon. With the
introduction of the 470 (from Dorking to Leatherhead, then via 408
to Croydon and Warlingham) in October 1938, the 408 was shortened
again to run only to West Croydon; in March 1939, the 470 was
re-routed south of Croydon to follow the 403. In May 1940,
the 408 was re-extended to Warlingham (along the 470) and the
familiar post-war pattern of 408 and 470 from Warlingham to
Guildford and Dorking respectively was established.
Early in the war, the original front-entrance STLs were
replaced by newer roofbox buses from the Central Area; these fine
buses were repainted green over the following eight years and
continued to operate the 408 and 470 until new RTs 3152 to 3183
were delivered to Leatherhead, Guildford and Chelsham in May-June
1950.
From the start of the winter timetables in 1963, just before
RT4779 arrived at Leatherhead, the 408 and 470 became jointly
scheduled, up to that point having had separate bus and crew
duties. RTs continued to operate the 408 and 470 until
replaced by modern buses in June
1972.
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